Spiber Inc., a bio-venture developing and producing the structural protein material “Brewed Protein™,” offers next-generation solutions as alternatives to conventional animal-, plant-, or synthetic-based materials. Known for its biodegradability, Brewed Protein™ fibers are expected to revolutionize the industry. Products featuring these fibers have been launched by 16 brands, including The North Face and Sacai, across 71 products. We spoke with Mr. Toru Takahashi, head of the Biotechnology Division, about the background of adopting Epistra Accelerate and the subsequent changes.
The Biotechnology Division focuses on developing technologies to produce Spiber’s protein materials at the lowest cost and highest quality possible. Our work spans the entire process of producing protein materials from microorganisms, including protein sequence design, strain breeding, fermentation, purification, scale-up, and pilot trials. With approximately 300 employees at Spiber, the division, comprising 40 members, is relatively large.It sounds like the driving force of a cutting-edge biotech company.
As I mentioned earlier, our division’s theme is how to produce high-quality protein materials at low cost. To achieve this, we use our past knowledge and human-wave tactics to test and examine various conditions. However, to determine the culture conditions for one protein, we need to test the conditions approximately 200 to 300 times, which takes years.
Moreover, new proteins need to be produced one after another depending on the purpose of use, so we couldn’t spend a long time on just one protein.
Furthermore, as a venture company, we are conducting research and development with limited investment funds, so every day is precious. I have always wanted to somehow reduce the number of experiments and thoroughly research ways to produce results in a short period of time.
Let me use the study of culture conditions (the first case study of Epistra Accelerate) as an example. Basically, the field of microbiology has been around for a long time, so we know to some extent what conditions microorganisms need to grow. For example, pH should be within this range, and temperature should be within this range.
So what we do is consider parameters such as pH one by one based on the conditions that are already known.
However, there are a huge number of parameters, and even if you combine the best conditions considered one by one, the best results may not be achieved, and in fact the performance may decrease. For this reason, it is unavoidable to conduct the study many times.
As living organisms, they will continue to live in the way that is easiest for themself, even if other external factors change, so creating things through cultivation doesn’t work as well as humans think.。
Right: Toru Takahashi, Head of Biotechnology Division, Spiber Inc. Left: Yosuke Ozawa, Ph.D., Co-founder and CEO, Epistra Inc.
Yes. At the time (around 2018-2019), I often heard the words AI and machine learning, and information about how amazing they were was constantly coming in. Even though I was in the bio field, I heard and read in various places that it was effective to have AI learn big data and derive optimal solutions.
However, we were still skeptical about whether the technology could be applied to the issues we faced.Also, we were in the midst of various attempts to solve the issues, such as joint research with academia and large companies, so we were not thinking too much about using AI.
It all started when I happened to meet Mr. Ozawa, the CEO of Epistola, and we talked about whether he would be interested in optimizing culture conditions using AI. When I asked him about it in more detail, I learned that in a joint research project with the RIKEN Institute, they had been somewhat successful in optimizing differentiation induction conditions on the theme of iPS cell differentiation.
Although I was skeptical, I decided to try it out for a set period of time, because it had already produced some results in the field of biotechnology and there was a possibility that it could lead to “improving protein productivity in a short period of time,” which was a very important issue for Spiber.
I was surprised that the results came much sooner than I had expected.
After training the AI to learn from past data and culturing the cells 10 to 20 times, the amount of protein produced jumped up significantly. When I first heard the report, I even suspected that the quantitative assessment of the protein amount was incorrect, and instructed them to do it again.
We were also surprised at the highly productive culture conditions that the AI came up with. Humans tend to set values that are easy to round off, but the AI set values much more precisely, and the accumulation of these small differences ultimately produced big differences. I’m sure all the lab members thought, “No human could ever come up with something like this.”
Witnessing how high productivity could be achieved in a short period of time under conditions that humans would never have thought of made me realize that “the era of humans in certain fields is coming to an end.” It may be fine for humans to create the base conditions (the initial conditions that work as the starting point for exploration) because of past experience. However, I realized that it would be better to leave the optimization beyond that to AI.
As a researcher, I do feel a bit sad, but as the person in charge of R&D at a company, I believe it is more important to contribute to society by selecting and actively introducing reliable technologies and accelerating the progress of our business.
There was nothing in particular that happened. I think it was actually Epistola who was confused.
The first important step in utilizing AI is to train it on past data. However, although our data was in a format that humans could understand, it was not in a nice format that could be used by AI to learn from. In addition, during the relatively long research and development period, there were also minor issues such as changes in the items being recorded and missing values.
However, Epistola helped us solve the problem by creating a machine-readable format, confirming the meaning of the data, and figuring out appropriate ways to fill in missing values. Thanks to her help, we were able to solve the problem smoothly from the start.
They anticipated the areas where we might get stuck and helped us out, so we didn’t get confused as much as we should have.
One reason is that there was a certain degree of common language from the beginning.
When working together in different fields, you need a common language. Without it, you have to start by learning each field, which can waste about six months of time. This can make it seem like the company has invested a year but nothing has progressed, which can make it difficult to continue the project.
However, Mr. Epistola has a solid knowledge of not only data science but also biology. Being able to smoothly communicate basic concepts is something that is often overlooked, but I think it is an extremely important element.
Another reason is that we were able to trust them and receive their generous support. Even if we share a common language, when we actually begin to work on a project, it is inevitable that we will come across a misunderstanding.
Epistola has a very keen sense of how to spot situations where we don’t understand each other. When it seemed like the other person didn’t understand, he would be creative with the wording and work closely with the other person to move the project forward, so even if there were misunderstandings, they didn’t end up becoming big problems.
Also, if you share your objectives with them beforehand, they will use their expertise in other fields to come up with new proposals when there are obstacles to moving the project forward.
By using AI once, we were able to get a good idea of what cutting-edge AI technology can and cannot do. As a result, we can now concretely imagine how combining AI with problems other than those we first applied to could be solved. This has greatly broadened the scope of what we can do in research and development.
Spiber’s strength is that it has a comprehensive process from protein design, cultivation, and purification to fiberization and post-fiber processing, and it has accumulated technology and data at each layer.
By combining this with Epistola’s AI, we would like to further accelerate our research and development. If the technological development we are currently planning bears fruit, I believe it will revolutionize bioprocess development, so I am looking forward to it.
Spiber Inc.
Head of Biotechnology Division